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Post by hong79 on Jan 3, 2010 15:09:22 GMT 7
Dear All,
I am a newbie to BH and swiflet farming. It seems to be a money making business to me as what my friends told me. I would like to hire a BH consultant to convert my abandoned shoplot into a BH. Any good recommendations or suggestions? Any precautions need to be taken as I heard many scams are in the market too.
Highly appreciate your advice. Thanks.
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Post by Chee on Jan 4, 2010 22:36:39 GMT 7
Hong79 This is a money making business if your swiftlet house success. It also take time. Not so easy. Consultant? Lot of people now is consultant. A contractor also consultant. Get a consultant who you can trust.
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Post by passion on Jan 5, 2010 9:37:27 GMT 7
Hi Hong79, Well, before u get a consultant, i think is better you carry out a bird call test. u just need a amplifier (with AV adapter to your car), 2 speaker and a CD. test it few time (before 9am, noon and 3pm). if u want to play safe, do it a few times in a week. If u have 100 birds flying around at each time u play that CD, then go ahead farming. Otherwise, better don't (waste time). even u have a abandon shoplot, if no bird or too little bird, it is still not adviseable to do it. because it may need Rm50k for 2 storey conversion. U also better watch out, some popular location have sign of dropping.
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Post by Malik on Jan 7, 2010 8:35:38 GMT 7
SCAM? yes very much. Make sure you own it and not partnership. Not purchasing by lots or draw. If you engage consultant, make sure they know what they are doing and not talking about. Good luck
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Post by haile2705 on Apr 1, 2010 17:28:37 GMT 7
Hi Hong79, Well, before u get a consultant, i think is better you carry out a bird call test. u just need a amplifier (with AV adapter to your car), 2 speaker and a CD. test it few time (before 9am, noon and 3pm). if u want to play safe, do it a few times in a week. If u have 100 birds flying around at each time u play that CD, then go ahead farming. Otherwise, better don't (waste time). even u have a abandon shoplot, if no bird or too little bird, it is still not adviseable to do it. because it may need Rm50k for 2 storey conversion. U also better watch out, some popular location have sign of dropping. Hi Passion! Could you pls kindly show me some shop or store in KL for buying the bird call accessories, Im fm Vietnam but i have a change to visit KL in the end of April. Thank you very much in advance.
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Post by crystalspalace on Apr 16, 2010 10:01:12 GMT 7
It would be nice if anyone would share the internal outlay of a successful BH.
Been to a constuction site of a new BH. It seems to me the owner build a lot of partition 2ft wide walls at the side. As I am new newbie could anybody shade some light, does it really necessary.
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Post by passion on Apr 16, 2010 15:26:21 GMT 7
Hi Haile, It is in Jln Pasar, Pudu. about 3km from KL city. Plenty of electronic and elctrical shop, u can check around. I will be there too during end april. here's my email if u need any assistant. aseanbirdnest@hotmail.com
Hi Crystalpalace, the is no fix internal outlay of BH, it is all depend on each location. But generally the basic is quite same. In general, partition is necessary especially when u have a big empty room. Partition act as a guide for flying path inside the BH and also bedrooms (grouping) and also playing & learning to fly. there are few more function of partition.
One of my BH in thailand, 2.5yrs, over 1000nest last count (3weeks ago), no partition at all, 5sty with building size very small, 12ft x 50ft.
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Post by kenyeap on Nov 13, 2010 20:55:31 GMT 7
Hi Hong79, Well, before u get a consultant, i think is better you carry out a bird call test. u just need a amplifier (with AV adapter to your car), 2 speaker and a CD. test it few time (before 9am, noon and 3pm). if u want to play safe, do it a few times in a week. If u have 100 birds flying around at each time u play that CD, then go ahead farming. Otherwise, better don't (waste time). even u have a abandon shoplot, if no bird or too little bird, it is still not adviseable to do it. because it may need Rm50k for 2 storey conversion. U also better watch out, some popular location have sign of dropping. Good point,Passion. But where we can get the bird call test's song ? Can you upload it for us to download ?
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Post by Urecom on Nov 21, 2010 19:45:45 GMT 7
Hello,
I am a newbie here.
Need sifus advice. Conducted 3 bird call tests. Location - Tanjung Malim. Here is the result:
10Nov (Clear Day) 5.30pm = Played Duress sound #1 for 10mins, no bird came at all. 6.45pm = Played Duress sound #2 for 20mins, got around 15birds only.
16Nov (Rainy Day) 6.30pm = played Duress Sound #2, after 1 min around 4 birds. By 2nd min, rain started to pour. Ended bird call test early.
19Nov (Rainy Day). 6.45pm = Very heavy rain in the evening. Waited until rain stops (but still slight drizzle). Played Duress sound#2, within 1 mins got around 100+ circling the sky.
With 3rd test result, is the result good enough to start the BH project?
Has anyone done Bird Call test in the MORNING before - just checking? If not, why must the test be done during the evening?
Does anyone knows a reliable contractor and wood (KD Dark Red Meranti) supplier in Tanjung Malim?
Thanx a lot.
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Post by passion on Nov 23, 2010 16:54:22 GMT 7
u should do it early morning before 8.30am. before the bird fly off to find food. secondly, looking at the result of testing, i would suggest, choose another one.
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Post by urecom on Dec 13, 2010 13:36:22 GMT 7
Dear Passion,
You wrote "choose another one" means choose another location but with in Tanjung Malim area?
I didn't know we can do BirdCall test at anytime of the day. From Youtube and from other's advice, I was told to do birdcall test in the evening (Sunset) just before the birds go home. Will try to do more test then.
To have a concrete test result - we must have 100birds in all the test we conduct?
You have built a very small bird house 12 x 50FT x 4Storeys. I was told that even the Roving area needs around 3x3Meter or 4x4Meter. How did you make your BH successful?
I have done a rough drawing of the stand alone BH, can I email to you for your opinion?
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Post by passion on Dec 14, 2010 11:17:08 GMT 7
i mean choose another location. 100birds is just good enough population to start with new BH (looking at the speed in future). more test, more accurate due to data collected.
i have BH with only 4m width x 14m long x 2sty & 4m x 16m x 3sty and 4 x 16m x 5sty, the result is 800, 500 & 1300nests. may be due to location and reasonable design. of course, if u goona build new i.e. standalone, better do it bigger i.e. recommended 24ft x 72ft, 2sty enough. pls send your drawing to me with indication , the direct of bird and also location of NSEW. We work it out the design together.
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Post by kk on May 8, 2011 21:30:44 GMT 7
Hi Passion,
I am kk from Kuching, Sarawak. I also interested with swiftlet farming. As you mentioned on the blog, bird call test must be carried out first before building the swiftlet house. Do you know where can i get the good bird test cd? What is the spec for tweeters used? The minimum of bird flying around must be 100?
Thanks.
KK
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Post by passion on May 10, 2011 14:58:07 GMT 7
Hi, a bird call test is necessary to check the population , around the area. if too low i.e. lower than 100birds, i would suggest choose another location. bird nest farming is refer to speed i.e. high population is necessary. population doesn't mean the bird is staying at that specific location, but flying pass also consider in this term.
As you know, investment in BH is huge therefore, double and triple confirm a good location is important. Location should also cover the no. of BH was build in that area.
U just to buy a portable amplifier which power from the "cigratte point" in your car or u pull out extra speaker cable from your car amplifier. Speaker.......a big size tweeter should be alright. Sound, i have, but file too big, how to email to you?
Recommended test time : before 9am, 12.30 to 2.30pm & 4.30 to 6pm.
If the test result is OK (positive), then only start to design the sound system accordingly. of course, building design is important too.
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Post by passion on May 27, 2011 16:25:25 GMT 7
The result seem to be low esp. for sarawak which i expect to be great. Better don't invest. Choose another location. OR find a very successful BH and start monitor the bird flying path, u just keep following the bird flying direction until u lost them or no more access. Then u try to find the nearby land for investment. This way is easier to find good location. In general, every BH is actually pulling other people bird either direct facing their BH or along the flying path.
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